{"id":958,"date":"2025-10-10T03:54:01","date_gmt":"2025-10-10T03:54:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.iterudio.com\/?p=958"},"modified":"2025-10-10T03:54:01","modified_gmt":"2025-10-10T03:54:01","slug":"cheesy-and-sympathetic","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.iterudio.com\/?p=958","title":{"rendered":"cheesy and sympathetic"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>I recently made an observation that &#8220;cheesy and sympathetic&#8221; never go out of style &#8211; with the implied punch line being that &#8220;cheesy&#8221; can never go OUT of style because by definition it is never IN style.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The folks at Merriam-Webster tell me that the non-dairy definition of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.merriam-webster.com\/dictionary\/cheesy\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.merriam-webster.com\/dictionary\/cheesy\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">&#8220;cheesy&#8221;<\/a> is &#8220;shabby, cheap.&#8221; SO something that we call &#8220;cheesy&#8221; (again in a non-dietary subject) tends to be &#8220;low budget&#8221; and probably &#8220;low quality&#8221;  &#8211; e.g. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.imdb.com\/title\/tt0052077\/\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.imdb.com\/title\/tt0052077\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Plan 9 From Outer Space<\/a> is a &#8220;cheesy movie&#8221; &#8211; SO cheesy that it is funny.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The path cheesy took to mean &#8220;cheap&#8221; is almost certainly American slang:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>cheesy (adj.) Meaning &#8220;cheap, inferior&#8221; is attested from 1896, perhaps originally U.S. student slang, along with cheese (n.) &#8220;an ignorant, stupid person.&#8221; <\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;m also told at the time across the pond: <\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>In late 19c. British slang, cheesy was &#8220;fine, showy&#8221; (1858), probably from cheese <\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>That quote about the United States and the United Kingdom being &#8220;separated by a common language&#8221; comes to mind &#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote\"><blockquote><p>\u201cEngland and America are two countries separated by the same language!\u201d<\/p><cite>George Bernard Shaw<\/cite><\/blockquote><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Not always bad &#8230;<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>It should be pointed out that cheesy doesn&#8217;t automatically mean &#8220;bad.&#8221; Guilty pleasures often have a high &#8220;cheesy&#8221; content. Why are they &#8220;guilty pleasures?&#8221; &#8211; probably  because they are &#8220;cheap and underappreciated&#8221; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>From a &#8220;food&#8221; point of view &#8211; adding cheese\/cheese like substance can transform &#8220;blah&#8221; to &#8220;gimme more&#8221; &#8212; think of the difference between plain nachos vs nachos AND cheese dip.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>An &#8220;artistic work&#8221; that strives for simplicity AND entertainment will almost certainly get labelled &#8220;cheesy.&#8221; e.g. for MOST of U.S. history &#8220;romance novels&#8221; have been the best selling genre &#8211; and of course &#8220;rom-coms&#8221; as a movie genre are so popular they have channels dedicated to them &#8211; and BOTH are extremely cheesy by design. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Just how MUCH &#8220;cheesy&#8221; is acceptable can change &#8211; but just because it is cheesy doesn&#8217;t mean it is worthless. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>e.g. Pick up a copy of an Edgar Rice Burroughs adventure story or a Max Brand western and &#8220;Cheesy but fun&#8221; will be an accurate description 99% of the time. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Giving the audience what they want is always a path to short term profit &#8211; but almost never long term respect. e.g. &#8220;Max Brand&#8221; was a pen name for Frederick Faust to begin with &#8211; and is still a brand name today &#8211; pick up a Max Brand paper back and the title of the individual book is probably smaller on the cover than &#8220;Max Brand&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Edgar Rice Burroughs created Tarzan &#8211; and the history of THAT iconic (and cheesy) character is beyond the scope of this article &#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Beautiful simplicity<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>If &#8220;simple and entertaining&#8221; is done at a high level it might get the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.merriam-webster.com\/dictionary\/elegant\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.merriam-webster.com\/dictionary\/elegant\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">&#8220;elegant&#8221;<\/a> label. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>At first glance elegance and cheesy are polar opposites &#8211; but the difference is in the implementation and individual interpretation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The first Star Wars (A New Hope) comes to mind &#8211; I loved the movie as an adventure story when I was 10 years old. By the time I was 20 it had become a little cheesy. When I re-watched it at 40 I notice the &#8220;meat and potatoes&#8221; under the cheese.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The story being &#8220;implemented&#8221; in Star Wars has deep mythological roots &#8211; what changed was MY individual interpretation of the movie &#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>While I&#8217;m at it <a href=\"https:\/\/www.imdb.com\/title\/tt0034583\/\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.imdb.com\/title\/tt0034583\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Casablanca (1942)<\/a> AND <a href=\"https:\/\/www.imdb.com\/title\/tt0033467\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.imdb.com\/title\/tt0033467\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Citizen Kane (1941)<\/a> routinely make the list of &#8220;great American movies&#8221; and both have a certain amount of &#8220;cheesy&#8221; in them &#8211; <br><br>AND don&#8217;t get me started on The Great Gatsby &#8211; (either the 1925 novel OR the movie interpretations) &#8211; The 1974 Robert Redford and Mia Farrow version captures the &#8220;feel&#8221; of the novel &#8211; which is VERY &#8220;cheesy and sympathetic&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>yes, The Great Gatsby is a great novel. &#8211; Baz Luhrmann might deserve the &#8220;king of cheesy&#8221; title, but you know &#8211; different subject &#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So yes &#8220;classics&#8221; can be cheesy.  BUT in general noticeable &#8220;cheesy-ness&#8221; is going to be interpreted as profiteering and maybe exploitation. i.e. a little cheesy goes a long way and TOO much ruins the product.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">When I was a child &#8230;<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>1 Corinthians 13:11(&#8220;When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things.&#8221;) drives home the point that &#8220;cheesy youthful moral reasoning&#8221; is always bad. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Youthful arrogance and prejudice should give way to more mature (and humble) attitudes developed by experience and education. It is a lot easier to &#8220;know everything&#8221; when your world is relatively small and experience is limited. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In THOSE cases the &#8220;cheesy&#8221; probably gets consumed with the assumption that it is the norm.  Which was kinda the point of Bob Dylan&#8217;s &#8220;My Back Pages&#8221; &#8211; but that is a different subject &#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote\"><blockquote><p>Ah, but I was so much older then I\u2019m younger than that now<\/p><cite>Bob Dylan<\/cite><\/blockquote><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><br>That youthful ignorance of the &#8220;cheesy&#8221; should naturally dissipate with time and exposure to the NOT &#8220;cheesy&#8221; &#8212; BUT just because you enjoyed something when you were &#8220;a child&#8221; doesn&#8217;t mean you can&#8217;t enjoy it when you &#8220;grow up.&#8221; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>That enjoyment should be re-framed and not glorified by nostalgia &#8211; i.e. &#8220;I remember loving this when I was smaller&#8221; vs &#8220;Things today will never be as good as my memory of &#8216;whatever'&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote has-text-align-right\"><blockquote><p>A little learning is a dangerous thing ;<br>Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring :<br>There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,<br>And drinking largely sobers us again.<\/p><cite>Alexander Pope<\/cite><\/blockquote><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Nostalgia isn&#8217;t evil &#8230;<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>There has been &#8220;research&#8221; done that pinpoints the age at which &#8220;musical tastes&#8221; get locked in.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As I remember the study &#8211; they came to the conclusion that the music we are exposed to under the age of 10 tends to have a watershed type effect &#8211; i.e. it can have a positive OR a negative impact on later musical preferences.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>My guess is that &#8220;parental relationships&#8221; become a lurking variable &#8212; if music reminds someone of their parents THAT is what they are reacting to, not the music.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>e.g. &#8220;I LOVE that song my mother\/father used to play that all the time&#8221; vs &#8220;I hate that song my mother\/father used to play it ALL the time&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Childhood memories aside &#8211; the human brain keeps developing into our late 20s &#8211; and it is around that time when &#8220;band names start sounding the same&#8221; and &#8220;music just isn&#8217;t as good as it used to be&#8221; to the average person.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If someone works in the &#8220;music industry&#8221; in some form &#8211; then their tastes may not calcify as much as non-music industry folks. However that is also going to be an exercise in the &#8220;expert mind&#8221; vs the &#8220;amateur mind&#8221; &#8211; which is also a different subject.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>SO if someone hears a song AND it reminds them of being in the 7th grade (13ish) &#8211; MY guess is that the song will FEEL &#8220;cheesy&#8221; to them simply because they are being reminded of that time in their life. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/eAfyFTzZDMM?si=t9bYKsdHl-LOV3mm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">&#8220;Beautiful&#8221; by Christina Aguilera<\/a> came up a &#8220;cheesy and sympathetic&#8221;  &#8211; yes, it is one of those songs that has a very high perceived &#8220;cheesy&#8221; content level &#8211; but get past the &#8220;cheese&#8221; and it is about self acceptance and independence. Scratch the surface and the message is &#8220;think for yourself&#8221; and\/or be a critical thinking individual <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ms Aguilera was 19ish when she recorded\/released the song in 2002 &#8211; and I&#8217;m gonna guess that at 44ish in 2025 SHE probably has a different view of  &#8220;Beautiful&#8221; &#8211; but my point is that there is &#8220;meat&#8221; under the &#8220;cheesy&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>umm, but for me I still hear &#8220;talented 19 year old&#8221; because I&#8217;m that guy in the back of the room yelling &#8220;Play Freebird!&#8221; \ud83d\ude09 <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I recently made an observation that &#8220;cheesy and sympathetic&#8221; never go out of style &#8211; with the implied punch line being that &#8220;cheesy&#8221; can never go OUT of style because by definition it is never IN style. 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