{"id":84,"date":"2021-07-28T14:19:39","date_gmt":"2021-07-28T18:19:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/iterudio.com\/?p=84"},"modified":"2021-07-28T14:19:39","modified_gmt":"2021-07-28T18:19:39","slug":"measuring-greatness","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.iterudio.com\/?p=84","title":{"rendered":"Measuring &#8220;greatness&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><strong>Just what do you mean &#8220;great?&#8221;<\/strong><br \/>Random thought time: What makes something\/someone <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.merriam-webster.com\/dictionary\/great#h1\" target=\"_blank\">&#8220;great&#8221;<\/a>?<\/p>\n\n\n<p>Merriam-Webster offers us definitions for &#8220;great&#8221; as adjective, verb, and noun. The earliest form of the English word (as an adjective) boil down to &#8220;large&#8221; &#8211; so a &#8220;great person&#8221; in the 12th century would have just been &#8220;exceptionally large.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n<p>Of course saying something is &#8220;large&#8221; or &#8220;small&#8221; is always going to be a little subjective &#8211; i.e. &#8220;large&#8221; or &#8220;small&#8221; compared to what? <\/p>\n\n\n<p>Is it then in the act of comparison that we can find &#8220;greatness?&#8221; Even if we are objectively measuring something (like height or weight) we still need more data &#8211; first a time and\/or place &#8211; e.g. &#8220;that is the largest\/greatest watermelon ever grown in such and such location and place&#8221; &#8211; and then someone to actually perform\/verify the measurement (in 2021 &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.guinnessworldrecords.com\/about-us\/our-history\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Guinness World Records<\/a>&#8221; still settle a lot of bets &#8211; btw <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.guinnessworldrecords.com\/world-records\/heaviest-watermelon\" target=\"_blank\">HEAVIEST watermelon measured is 159 kilograms<\/a>).<\/p>\n\n\n<p><strong>Of all time &#8230;<\/strong><br \/>Of course, something like weight or height is measured easily enough &#8211; and can then be compared across spans of time with little argument.<\/p>\n\n\n<p>Calling something &#8220;great&#8221; implies &#8220;superiority&#8221; of some kind. e.g. &#8220;That one is <strong><em>GREATER<\/em>\/SUPERIOR<\/strong> than the others.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n<p>However, problems creep in when you try to compare &#8220;human performance&#8221; and\/or &#8220;different eras&#8221; &#8211; i.e. we are no longer able to make <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.merriam-webster.com\/dictionary\/objective\" target=\"_blank\">&#8220;objective&#8221;<\/a> arguments because we aren&#8217;t really comparing the same things.<\/p>\n\n\n<p><strong>A little pretentious Latin &#8230; <\/strong><br \/>Allowances must also be made for individual tastes\/preferences (<em><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/De_gustibus_non_est_disputandum\" target=\"_blank\">De gustibus non est disputandum<\/a><\/em>). e.g. Arguing over the &#8220;greatest ice cream flavor&#8221; is pointless &#8211; <em><strong>MY<\/strong><\/em> favorite flavor is simply <strong><em>my<\/em><\/strong> <strong><em>preference<\/em><\/strong>, and is completely <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.merriam-webster.com\/dictionary\/subjective\" target=\"_blank\">subjective\/personal<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n<p>You might be able to find copious data about the <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.travelandleisure.com\/food-drink\/most-popular-ice-cream-flavors-every-state\" target=\"_blank\">volume of ice cream sold\/consumed in specific geographic areas<\/a> but that still isn&#8217;t a measure of &#8220;greatness\/superiority.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n<p><strong>The human drama of athletic competition &#8230;<\/strong><br \/>Full disclosure &#8211; I have watched a lot of televised sports in my lifetime. This becomes relevant simply because <strong>&#8220;watching sports<\/strong>&#8221; almost always means <strong>&#8220;listening to sports announcers.&#8221;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n<p>A &#8220;good announcer&#8221; enhances the game &#8211; while a &#8220;not so good announcer&#8221; becomes an annoyance. This is another great example of not being able to argue about personal taste. No matter what an announcer does, they can&#8217;t please EVERYBODY &#8211; so I&#8217;ll just say that I sympathize with the announcers plight, and point out one of pet peeves &#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n<p><strong>Hasty generalizations\/bias\/filling dead air<\/strong><br \/>The reality is that I don&#8217;t listen to &#8220;sports announcers&#8221; when I understand the sport in question. <\/p>\n\n\n<p>First: I don&#8217;t need someone to tell me what I am seeing. In this scenario the announcer becomes &#8220;irritating noise&#8221; rather than &#8220;useful information.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n<p>Second: There tends to be a lot of &#8220;fill time&#8221; in most broadcasts. The challenge (for the announcers) becomes finding something interesting to talk about &#8211; when nothing interesting is happening. Again, tastes differ &#8211; but I probably have the volume turned down, simply because I have a low tolerance for &#8220;inane chatter.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n<p>One of those forms of &#8220;inane chatter&#8221; is to talk endlessly about how great the athletes are performing, and\/or how an athlete is the GREATEST OF ALL TIME (G.O.A.T.).<\/p>\n\n\n<p>Examples abound. I understand the announcers need to talk about SOMETHING &#8211; but simply telling us that &#8220;so and so&#8221; is the &#8220;greatest such and such&#8221; isn&#8217;t interesting\/entertaining.<\/p>\n\n\n<p><strong>Statistics<\/strong><br \/>Yes, we can compare statistics as well as wins and loses &#8211; but unless it is an individual sport, arguing that an athlete is the G.O.A.T. is probably just inane chatter (of course, that doesn&#8217;t mean that the athlete in question isn&#8217;t &#8220;great&#8221; &#8211; but constantly talking about how great they are is a little pointless).<\/p>\n\n\n<p>We also have to make room for significant rule changes within the sport in question.  Consider &#8220;major league baseball&#8221; the lowest ERA ever recorded by a starting pitcher happened in 1968 &#8211; <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.mlb.com\/cut4\/why-was-the-mound-lowered-in-1968\/c-158689966\" target=\"_blank\">then in 1969 the pitching mound was lowered 5 inches<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n<p>Just to be clear &#8211; the rule change in itself isn&#8217;t important. However comparing &#8220;historic&#8221; pitcher ERA&#8217;s becomes two data sets &#8211; &#8220;before the mound was lowered&#8221; and &#8220;after the mound was lowered.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n<p><strong>Sports I watch every four years &#8230;<\/strong><br \/>The Olympics are in full swing at the moment. Women&#8217;s gymnastics is one of those sports I hear about (or pay attention to) when the Olympics roll around.<\/p>\n\n\n<p>I freely admit I am not an expert in &#8220;women&#8217;s gymnastics&#8221; so (if I had watched any of the event) I would have been compelled to listen to the announcers. <\/p>\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;m not looking to criticize anyone &#8211; athlete or announcer. HOWEVER the G.O.A.T. term keep popping up. Again, I am not an expert on Olympic gymnastics &#8211; but I&#8217;ll point out that there have been some significant rule changes that (probably) create &#8220;multiple datasets&#8221; for the sport.<\/p>\n\n\n<p>Nadia Com\u0103neci was 14 years old when she became the first gymnast to score a &#8220;perfect 10&#8221; (1976).  <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/girls-no-more-why-elite-gymnastics-competition-for-women-should-start-at-18-143182\" target=\"_blank\">In 1981 the minimum age for gymnastics competitors was raised to 15 years old, then to 16 years old in 1993<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n<p>The point is that in &#8220;women&#8217;s gymnastics&#8221; the &#8220;younger&#8221; girls (14-15 year olds) tend to have a competitive advantage over the &#8220;older&#8221; girls (18+) &#8211; just biology at work.<\/p>\n\n\n<p>Again, to be clear &#8211; the rule change in and of itself isn&#8217;t the issue. I&#8217;ve never heard anyone argue that the minimum age rule change was a bad idea (the linked article argues the limit should be raised to 18 &#8211; I don&#8217;t honestly have an opinion, but with the &#8220;other issues&#8221; facing the sport it makes perfect sense). <\/p>\n\n\n<p><strong>The &#8220;greatness&#8221; question<\/strong><br \/>All together now: &#8220;Sports should not be <strong>the most<\/strong> important thing in an athlete&#8217;s life.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n<p>It may be apocryphal &#8211; but the story goes that Vince Lombardi used to tell his Green Bay Packer teams that he wanted them to put football &#8220;third.&#8221; First and second should be their religion and family, but after those top two priorities, Mr Lombardi wanted players to put &#8220;pro football&#8221; ahead of everything else. <\/p>\n\n\n<p>I mention this because &#8220;keeping things in perspective&#8221; tends to be a challenge for elite athletes. On one hand they have to be willing to &#8220;put in the work&#8221; just to BE an elite athlete, but then the very nature of &#8220;sports&#8221; means things will happen outside of their control.<\/p>\n\n\n<p>SO with that in mind &#8220;true greatness&#8221; is not just about &#8220;performance <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=A311CnTjfos\" target=\"_blank\">in the arena<\/a>.&#8221; <\/p>\n\n\n<p><strong>Perseverance<\/strong><br \/>True, all &#8220;elite athletes&#8221; have &#8220;endured the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune&#8221; to some extent &#8211; just for fun I&#8217;ll argue that the &#8220;truly great&#8221; have also persevered.<\/p>\n\n\n<p>This becomes the difference between someone &#8220;having a great year&#8221; and &#8220;being a great competitor.&#8221; Then (again, thought experiment, just for fun) &#8220;being truly great&#8221; is when <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.history.com\/this-day-in-history\/olympic-speed-skater-jansen-falls-after-sister-dies\" target=\"_blank\">great physical ability\/talent combines with endurance\/perseverance and just enough good fortune (not a household name in 2021 &#8211; but Dan Jansen comes to mind.)<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n<p><strong>ANYWAY<\/strong><br \/>Injuries happen, bad performances happen &#8211; good days\/bad days happen &#8211; which is probably what makes &#8220;sports&#8221; fun to watch in the first place.<\/p>\n\n\n<p>The NFL used to claim that &#8220;any team can beat any other team on any given Sunday&#8221; &#8211; i.e. all of the teams competing consist of great athletes and coaches. Another way to say the same concept might be that the &#8220;margin for error&#8221; between the best and worst teams is extremely small.<\/p>\n\n\n<p>SO arguably in ANY &#8220;professional sport&#8221; there are never any true &#8220;upsets.&#8221; The true <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=zbQTXFJL8lo\" target=\"_blank\">&#8220;Cinderella story&#8221;<\/a> requires amateur athletes &#8230; but THAT is another post &#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Just what do you mean &#8220;great?&#8221;Random thought time: What makes something\/someone &#8220;great&#8221;? Merriam-Webster offers us definitions for &#8220;great&#8221; as adjective, verb, and noun. 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