{"id":206,"date":"2021-10-20T16:48:08","date_gmt":"2021-10-20T20:48:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/iterudio.com\/?p=206"},"modified":"2021-10-20T16:48:08","modified_gmt":"2021-10-20T20:48:08","slug":"extremists-expert-knowledge-more-rules-dont-make-people-honest","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.iterudio.com\/?p=206","title":{"rendered":"extremists, expert knowledge, more rules don&#8217;t make people honest"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Back when &#8220;tradition warfare&#8221; was, well, &#8220;traditional&#8221; &#8211; I stumbled across a book that tried to answer the age old &#8220;why do countries go to &#8216;war&#8217; against each other.&#8221;<br \/><br \/>The researchers where approaching the question from a secular psychology perspective &#8211; but I&#8217;ll point out <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=James%204%3A1-10&amp;version=KJV\" target=\"_blank\">James 4:1-10<\/a> as kind of summarizing what the researchers found &#8211; i.e. the problem seems to be part of that ol&#8217; &#8220;human nature&#8221; thing.<br \/><br \/>ANYWAY &#8211; this came to mind because (if memory serves &#8211; I have a copy of the book somewhere) one of the &#8220;phases&#8221; on the way to full blown &#8220;war&#8221; which the researchers identified was the depersonalization of the &#8220;other side.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n<p>In my lifetime I can remember when the residents of the U.S.S.R. were &#8220;Godless communists intent on world domination and destroying the American way of life&#8221; &#8211; which at one point may have been true for the leaders of the Communist Party in Russia, but was almost certainly NOT true for the &#8220;average Russian citizen.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n<p>There were &#8220;close calls&#8221; where a full blown &#8220;traditional war&#8221; could have erupted between the U.S. and the U.S.S.R. &#8211; but obviously it never happened. <\/p>\n\n\n<p>The &#8220;why&#8221; is beyond me &#8211; but the &#8220;how&#8221; is that the leaders of both nations were always willing to communicate with each other at some level. <\/p>\n\n\n<p>In full blown 20\/20 hindsight we might say that they realized that &#8220;winning&#8221; a modern nuclear war isn&#8217;t possible &#8211; but that is probably an example of the historian fallacy of seeing events as &#8220;inevitable.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;ve heard it argued that &#8220;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.imdb.com\/title\/tt0081856\/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2\" target=\"_blank\">Dynasty<\/a>&#8221; (the 1980&#8217;s primetime soap opera) helped end the cold war. How? Well, ordinary folks in the U.S.S.R. were somehow able to watch the show &#8211; and the &#8220;conspicuous consumption&#8221; obvious in the show wasn&#8217;t what they had been told life was like in the U.S.<\/p>\n\n\n<p>They didn&#8217;t see people waiting in line to buy things, or being put on a waiting list to be able to buy a car. The show was obviously not &#8220;real America&#8221; BUT then they would have seen the commercials as well &#8211; and again they saw &#8220;economic prosperity&#8221; not &#8220;capitalists oppressing the masses.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n<p>The larger point being that they began to see &#8220;Americans&#8221; as individual people &#8211; not as a large anonymous group.<\/p>\n\n\n<p>Of course in the &#8220;west&#8221; you can trace a similar change in attitudes by how &#8220;Russians&#8221; where portrayed in pop-culture. <\/p>\n\n\n<p>The Bond franchise serves as a convenient example &#8211; in the &#8220;Sean Connery&#8221; Bond movies, the &#8220;Russians&#8221; are anonymous at best. Sure, the U.S.S.R. is never the villain (Spectre is always the &#8220;bad guy&#8221;). When the villains\/antagonists are &#8220;eastern European&#8221; they are agents of Spectre &#8211; but &#8220;Russia&#8221; exists as an &#8220;ominous presence.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n<p>Then in the &#8220;Roger Moore&#8221; Bond movies in the 1970&#8217;s and early 1980&#8217;s the &#8220;Russians&#8221; were &#8220;competition&#8221; but not &#8220;anonymous enemies.&#8221; The two sides were &#8220;respected opponents&#8221; &#8211; not &#8220;mortal enemies.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n<p>Then by the time the U.S.S.R. collapsed in 1991 the &#8220;Russians&#8221; had become &#8220;co-workers&#8221; in the Bond Franchise.<\/p>\n\n\n<p>In the late 1980&#8217;s and 1990&#8217;s we got Timothy Dalton (great actor, not my favorite &#8220;Bond&#8221;) and then Pierce Brosnan as Bond &#8211; and the &#8220;bad guys&#8221; were drug dealers and &#8220;extremists.&#8221; <\/p>\n\n\n<p>Finally in &#8220;No Time To Die&#8221; &#8211; Daniel Craig as Bond says his Russian is &#8220;rusty&#8221; &#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Extremists<\/h4>\n\n\n<p>SO &#8211; obvious economic, cultural, ethnic differences aside &#8211; people tend to be the same where ever you go \ud83d\ude09<\/p>\n\n\n<p>The rule of thumb seems to be that &#8220;extremist views&#8221; are dangerous and must be censored\/controlled. The question becomes &#8220;what makes someone an <em>extremist<\/em>.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n<p>It must be pointed out that just because you don&#8217;t agree with the message, or don&#8217;t like the messenger &#8211; does not make the message &#8220;extreme.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n<p>e.g. &#8220;I think men that button the top button &#8211; and don&#8217;t wear a tie &#8211; look silly.&#8221; Agree or disagree (I see enough guys with &#8220;top button buttoned\/no tie&#8221; enough to know that some folks disagree with me) am I an extremist? obviously not.<\/p>\n\n\n<p>MAYBE, the easiest way to identify an &#8220;extremist&#8221; is that they tend to address those that disagree with them as a malicious group &#8211; just like the &#8220;early phase to war&#8221;.<\/p>\n\n\n<p>e.g.   &#8220;I think men that button the top button &#8211; and don&#8217;t wear a tie &#8211; look silly AND they are out to destroy us all therefore they must be censored!&#8221; extremist? this time very much &#8220;yes&#8221; <\/p>\n\n\n<p>(oh, and while I&#8217;m at it &#8211; belt OR suspenders NOT both, and you over there pull up your pants and tie those shoes!)<\/p>\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"> Expert Knowledge<\/h4>\n\n\n<p>Silly examples aside &#8211; we have run headlong into the concept of &#8220;expert knowledge.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n<p><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.merriam-webster.com\/dictionary\/expert\" target=\"_blank\">Merriam-Webster tell us an expert<\/a> is someone with &#8220;special skill or knowledge representing mastery of a particular subject.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n<p>Another way to put it is that an &#8220;expert&#8221; is someone that knows &#8220;more and more about less and less.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n<p>SO while I don&#8217;t consider myself an expert on ANY subject &#8211; I get paid to talk about computers\/technology. Sometimes I might appear to &#8220;know things&#8221; but that is usually an illusion &#8211; some form of this quote applies:<\/p>\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote\"><blockquote><p>It is better to remain silent at the risk of being thought a fool, than to talk and remove all doubt of it.<\/p><\/blockquote><\/figure>\n\n\n<p>HOWEVER &#8211; a lot of actual research has been done into the &#8220;learning process.&#8221; I tend to use the term &#8220;expert knowledge&#8221; because in the early 1990&#8217;s the concept of &#8220;expert systems&#8221; was something of a computing fad (which probably grew into &#8220;AI&#8221; and\/or &#8220;computer learning&#8221; in the last few years) &#8211; but call it the &#8220;path to mastery&#8221; if you prefer.<\/p>\n\n\n<p>When we first start learning about a subject we tend to over generalize as part of &#8220;knowledge processing.&#8221; <\/p>\n\n\n<p>The old saying that someone &#8220;Can&#8217;t see the forest because of the trees&#8221; might be an example of the concept &#8220;amateur knowledge.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n<p>e.g. someone first learning about &#8220;trees&#8221; might go out and look at a bunch of different types of trees in the same area and come away from the experience overwhelmed by information about individual trees.<\/p>\n\n\n<p>It turns out that &#8220;experts&#8221; &#8211; as in &#8220;those that have &#8216;mastered&#8217; a certain set of skills\/knowledge&#8221; &#8211; tend to seamlessly go from specific to general and back again.<\/p>\n\n\n<p>e.g. the &#8220;expert&#8221; showing that group of amateurs the trees also has an appreciation for how those trees interact with each other as well as the impact &#8220;the forest&#8221; has on the larger ecosystem.<\/p>\n\n\n<p>Which kinda means that the &#8220;expert&#8221; sees the trees AND the forest.<\/p>\n\n\n<p>Of course there is a <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=Mark%2012%3A28-34%2CLuke%2010%3A25-28&amp;version=ESV\" target=\"_blank\">Biblical reference<\/a> &#8211; umm, I&#8217;ll just point out that those who were regarded as &#8220;experts&#8221; where quizzing Jesus on the &#8220;greatest commandment&#8221; &#8211; and Jesus summarizes the teachings of what we call the Old Testament in two sentences &#8211; which probably also illustrates that there are always more people that THINK they are &#8220;experts&#8221; on a subject than are ACTUALLY experts &#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n<p>as always, don&#8217;t trust me &#8211; I am only a bear of very little brain \ud83d\ude09<\/p>\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Rules, Rules, Rules<\/h4>\n\n\n<p>From a organizational behavior point of view &#8220;more rules do not make people better.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;ve worked for a couple of places that wanted me to sign &#8220;non compete&#8221; agreements &#8211; which I was happy to sign because signing the &#8220;non compete&#8221; agreement was completely pointless.<\/p>\n\n\n<p>I understand that the employer wanted to guard themselves against someone coming in and stealing &#8220;organizational intellectual property&#8221; or (more likely in the tech support arena) an employee stealing &#8220;customer support contracts&#8221; and starting their own company.<\/p>\n\n\n<p>I say it was pointless both because the judicial system rarely enforces &#8220;non compete&#8221; type contracts AND because if I was the type of person that would actually do what they are afraid of &#8211; then no &#8220;contract&#8221; would stop me from doing it.<\/p>\n\n\n<p>The point being that &#8220;making a bunch of rules&#8221; hoping to change the behavior of lazy\/stupid\/malicious employees ends up making the &#8220;good employees&#8221; less productive.<\/p>\n\n\n<p>i.e. the people that are doing <em>what the rules are supposed to stop<\/em> don&#8217;t care about the rules, and the people that <em>aren&#8217;t doing<\/em> it will be burdened by having to comply with additional (pointless) rules.<\/p>\n\n\n<p>SO there is probably an inverse relationship between the size of the &#8220;employee manual&#8221; and the efficiency\/productivity  of the organization &#8211; but that falls into the &#8220;personal observation&#8221; category <\/p>\n\n\n<p>&#8230; with the obvious addendum that industries will differ and the need to comply with &#8220;regulation&#8221; is the root cause for a lot of very large employee manuals&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">EVEN WORSE<\/h4>\n\n\n<p>Then add in that the additional rules are (usually) made because of a problem with an individual that is no longer with the organization. <\/p>\n\n\n<p>This becomes my favorite example of &#8220;incompetent management 101&#8221; &#8211; i.e. they are &#8220;managing&#8221; employees that aren&#8217;t there anymore. <\/p>\n\n\n<p>Hey, I&#8217;m sorry the last guy was an incompetent jerk &#8211; how about we pretend like I&#8217;m NOT an incompetent jerk &#8211; you know, just in case I&#8217;m NOT that other person that caused you problems. <\/p>\n\n\n<p>Yes, that is (almost certainly) unfair &#8211; with &#8220;interpersonal relationships&#8221; of any kind, it is seldom only one sides &#8220;fault&#8221; &#8211; a <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Wn2e4Dhod7M\" target=\"_blank\">Hank Williams song comes to mind<\/a> &#8211; but that is a different subject \ud83d\ude09<\/p>\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">$600? $10,000? does it really matter?<\/h4>\n\n\n<p>Those with long memories might remember Eliot Spitzer (for those that don&#8217;t there is a <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.imdb.com\/title\/tt1638362\/\" target=\"_blank\">documentary called Client 9<\/a>).<\/p>\n\n\n<p>Salacious aspects aside &#8211; <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nydailynews.com\/news\/spitzer-caught-article-1.288370\" target=\"_blank\">Mr. Spitzer reportedly got caught in part because of deposit notification rules<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n<p>&#8220;They&#8221; (as in the various law enforcement entities involved) have been monitoring &#8220;large deposits&#8221; in an effort to catch &#8220;money laundering&#8221; by drug cartels and terrorists for a long time. I&#8217;m not sure HOW long, but it has been going on for awhile.<\/p>\n\n\n<p>Apparently Mr Spitzer was aware of the rules in question &#8211; and so he purposefully kept his withdrawals below the $10,000 limit that was supposed to trigger notification.<\/p>\n\n\n<p>It turns out that the people that work in the banking industry aren&#8217;t complete idiots &#8211; SO they had been monitoring for &#8220;suspicious activity&#8221; that someone trying to avoid setting off the automatic notification limit might use.<\/p>\n\n\n<p>It wasn&#8217;t the AMOUNT of the transactions that got Mr Spitzer investigated &#8211; it was the suspicious behavior that caused the investigation.<\/p>\n\n\n<p>I don&#8217;t know if it was still based on a specific limit or not &#8211; i.e. did 3 transactions of $4,000 each in the same week equal 1 transaction of $12,000? either way, it doesn&#8217;t matter.<\/p>\n\n\n<p>The point is that if you are trying to catch scofflaws you need to monitor behaviors NOT specific transaction amounts.<\/p>\n\n\n<p>Which PROBABLY means that any law requiring &#8220;automatic reporting&#8221; to &#8220;some gov&#8217;ment agency&#8221; is also PROBABLY pointless for &#8220;law enforcement&#8221; purposes and simply becomes gov&#8217;ment intrusion on individual liberty &#8211; i.e. another step towards &#8220;Big Brother&#8221; watching you &#8211; which might start with noble intentions but becomes the slippery slope to modern serfdom &#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Back when &#8220;tradition warfare&#8221; was, well, &#8220;traditional&#8221; &#8211; I stumbled across a book that tried to answer the age old &#8220;why do countries go to &#8216;war&#8217; against each other.&#8221; The researchers where approaching the question from a secular psychology perspective &#8211; but I&#8217;ll point out James 4:1-10 as kind of summarizing what the researchers found [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2,6,11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-206","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-business","category-history","category-philosophy"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.iterudio.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/206","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.iterudio.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.iterudio.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.iterudio.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.iterudio.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=206"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.iterudio.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/206\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.iterudio.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=206"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.iterudio.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=206"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.iterudio.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=206"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}